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Sunday, November 4, 2012

Nurul: There should be no compulsion in choosing faith


People should not be compelled to adopt a particular religion and this should also apply to Malays, says Lembah Pantai MP Nurul Izzah Anwar.

"When you ask me, there is no compulsion in religion... how can anyone say sorry, this (religious freedom) only applies to non-Malays, it has to apply equally." she said.

She was speaking at a forum on "Islamic State: Which version; Who's responsibility?" in Subang Jaya this morning.

The Lembah Pantai MP was responding to a question from the floor on whether Malays should have religious freedom like non-Malays.

"Malay" is defined under Section 160(2) of the federal constitution as a person who professes Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language and conforms to Malay customs.

Ultimately, she said, what should be sought is "quality" where Muslims' faith is strong.

"Even me, being schooled in Assunta (secondary school) with a huge cross in the hall and an active singing Catholic society did not influence me," she said.

However, Nurul Izzah stopped short of saying that Malays should be legally granted religious freedom, saying: "I am, of course, tied to the prevailing views."

To a question on the rights of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transexual (LGBT) community, Nurul Izzah conceded that as Muslims and even for Catholics, there were limitations.

However, she stressed that the principle for Pakatan Rakyat was that the community should not be victimised.

'Muslims' freedom ignored'

Human rights lawyer, Malik Imtiaz, on his part, noted that there had been a "back door attempt" to revise the country into an Islamic state with a single interpretation with Muslims being the biggest victims from this insidious move.

"We talk about how non-Muslims are affected by the so-called dominance but tend to forget that the biggest victims of this discussion are the Muslims because everyone recognises the freedom of non-Muslims but people don't seem to talk about the freedom of Muslims.

"The point is diversity is as important for Muslims as it is for everyone else.

"No one stops (a Catholic) from going to a Catholic or Protestant church but for the state, there is only one version of Islam... if you don't believe this kind of Islam, you are a deviationist," he said.

As such, Malik said what had been creating was a monolithic Islam that was being manipulated for political purpose and turned into tool to either woo or intimidate voters.

Nigel Aw

47 comments:

  1. Semua kepalsuan dan janji-janji manisnya telah telah terbukti satu pembohongan belaka.Bermula dengan episod 16 September 2008 di mana Anwar Ibrahim dengan bongkaknya menjanjikan rakyat satu kerajaan persekutuan baru pada hari menyambut penubuhan Malaysia,sehinggalah ke hari ini,kesemua yang keluar dari mulut Anwar adalah semata-mata pembohongan

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    1. Rakyat perlulah menilai sendiri kenyataan daripada Anwar Ibrahim.

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  2. Anwar Ibrahim membuat satu lagi pembohongan untuk memansuhkan pinjaman pendidikan PTPTN.Maka sekumpulan mahasewel atau bekas mahasewel yang jumlahnya hanya sekitar 50 orang diupah Anwar untuk membuat kecoh di Dataran Merdeka

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    1. Mereka yang diupah Pakatan Haram kononnya untuk memperjuangkan nasib golongan mahasiswa sebenarnya boleh dikatakan pembuat kacau profesional yang dibayar wang untuk menimbulkan huru hara

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    2. mereka adalah kumpulan orang yang sama pada setiap perhimpunan haram dan demonstrasi jalanan yang membabitkan pihak Pakatan Haram.Baik pada perhimpunan Bersih,mahupun demonstrasi anti-ISA ataupun perarakan tuntutan hak air Selangor hinggalah gerakan membebaskan Anwar,mereka adalah wajah-wajah yang sama

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    3. idea pemansuhan PTPTN datangnya dari Anwar tetapi kelibat beliau sendiri tidak kelihatan untuk bersama-sama kumpulan tersebut di Dataran Merdeka.Anwar menggunakan anak-anak muda untuk berjuang untuknya sehingga mereka sanggup berkhemah dan tidur atas jalanan sementara Anwar Ibrahim pula enak tidur di atas hamparan baldu di rumahnya yang berharga jutaan ringgit

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    4. Kesimpulannya golongan mahasiswa secara keseluruhannya tidak menyokong agenda politik kotor kumpulan ini yang cuba menonjolkan imej sebagai jurucakap puluhan ribu warga institusi pendidikan tinggi

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    5. Lebih baik mahasiswa jangan terlibat dalam politik, tumpukan pada palajaran dulu.

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  3. Religious freedom is the right of all mankind.

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  4. Semua orang berhak memeluk mana-mana agama yang dianggap sesuai untuk diri mereka. Tidak boleh memaksa dalam pemilihan agama.

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  5. Semoga kita boleh menerima dan menghormati agama satu sama lain supaya keharmonian dalam negara dapat dipertahankan.

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  6. Religion is personal, anyone can practise whatever religion they want...this is freedom of religion.
    Who are them to tell us who to believe???

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    1. Follow your heart and believe what you want to believe as long as you are not believing something that only lead you to destruction.

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  7. Nurul, you are right, religion is a personal thing, Umno made use of it for their political ends, they succeeded but the people did not, all becos of religion and politics combined.

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  8. I never heard a Christian Malay. could it possible??

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  9. Kenyataan bahawa orang Melayu bebas memilih agama mereka menjadi petanda fahaman pluralisme agama dan fahaman Islam liberal kini sudah merebak luas hasil gerakan aktif kumpulan tertentu.

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  10. Malah Presiden Jalur Tiga (Jati), Datuk Dr. Hasan Ali turut menyifatkan kenyataan tersebut sebagai satu laluan serta tiket percuma kepada gerakan-gerakan yang sentiasa mahu memesongkan akidah umat Islam antaranya gerakan kristianisasi.

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  11. Kenyataan tersebut mempunyai implikasi yang sangat besar kepada generasi sekarang dan generasi akan datang apatah lagi sifatnya yang jelas bertentangan dengan ajaran Islam.

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  12. Kebebasan beragama sebagaimana dalam Perkara 11 Perlembagaan Persekutuan bukan suatu yang mutlak kerana tertakluk kepada peruntukan-peruntukan lain.

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  13. Presiden Persatuan Peguam Syarie Malaysia (PGSM), Musa Awang berkata, Perkara 160 Perlembagaan mentakrifkan orang Melayu sebagai seseorang yang menganuti agama Islam.

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  14. Perkara 11 (4) Perlembagaan pula memberi kuasa kepada kerajaan-kerajaan negeri dan Persekutuan untuk mengawal atau menyekat pengembangan apa-apa doktrin atau kepercayaan agama di kalangan orang yang menganuti agama Islam.

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  15. Sebagai sebuah negara bukan sekular dan Perlembagaan negara yang meletakkan Islam sebagai agama Persekutuan, adalah menjadi tugas kerajaan dan pihak berkuasa berkenaan agama menjaga akidah umat Melayu Islam daripada terpesong atau dipengaruhi oleh agama lain.-Musa Awang

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  16. Kenyataan Naib Presiden Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR), Nurul Izzah Anwar bahawa rakyat tidak seharusnya dipaksa mengamalkan agama tertentu termasuklah dalam kalangan orang Melayu jelas membuktikan beliau menjadikan agama sebagai modal politik untuk menarik sokongan bukan Islam.

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  17. Presiden Pertubuhan Pribumi Perkasa Malaysia, Datuk Ibrahim Ali berkata, kenyataan Nurul Izzah itu juga membuktikan beliau meletakkan kepercayaan terhadap agama Islam daripada sudut akidah lebih rendah berbanding kepentingan politiknya.

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  18. Perkara tersebut sangat serius kerana boleh merosakkan agama Islam dan Majlis Agama Islam Selangor (MAIS) digesa menyiasat perkara itu memandangkan kenyataan tersebut dilakukan di Selangor.

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  19. Islam memang tidak memaksa seseorang itu memeluk agama tersebut, tetapi tidak bermakna Islam memberi kebebasan kepada mana-mana penganutnya keluar masuk agama sesuka hati. Hari ini Islam, esok keluar dan masuk agama Buddha, lusa masuk Islam balik, tidak boleh.

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  20. Kepada lembu-lembu UMNO, teruskan perjuangan mabuk anda mempertahankan Ketuanan Penjajah Asing Melayu.

    Sementara itu, anak-anak negara Sabah akan menendang anda ke Laut Cina Selatan berserta bos-bos UMNO anda!

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  21. When you marry this person, you have to convert into his/her religion. To convert for the sake of marriage means no sincerity unless you are willing to convert because you love the religion.

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  22. Definition of a Malay ... to be a Muslim, habitually speaks the Malay language, adheres to Malay customs can become a Malay.

    If a Malay who renounces the malay customs, can he be not a malay...If he is, then he can convert to other religions.

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  23. NURUL Izzah Anwar has stepped into a political minefield following her statement on the freedom of religion among Muslims, which is being described as "insensitive and brash".
    Perhaps the Parti Keadilan Rakyat vice-president was taking a leaf out of the book of her father, opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, who always found himself in trouble for making jolting statements, like supporting efforts to protect the security of Israel.

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    1. Nurul Izzah said: "How can anyone say the freedom of religion applies only to non-Muslims? It has to be applied equally.

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    2. "In the Quran, there is no specific term to Malays as to how it should be done," she said to a question on whether Malays had freedom of religion.


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    3. Oh yes, Nurul Izzah did deny claims that she supported apostasy during a forum on an Islamic state. No right-minded Muslim would have done that.

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    4. She may have meant well raising the issue but her clarification deviated from what was understood by mufti and religious experts.

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    5. It was as if she had never said anything regarding religious freedom among Muslims on that fateful day, but was, rather, taking a quote from a surah (a chapter in the Quran). It was rather stupefying, indeed.

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    6. The 32-year-old could have been careful with her words. They were probably said to appease potential liberal-minded voters.

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    7. Still, Nurul Izzah should have known better about the political ramifications.

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    8. It could cause the loss of support among Malays or a backlash from an ally, if one does not thread carefully when dealing with an issue that is taboo among Muslims.

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    9. Nurul Izzah, one of the opposition's strongest frontliners, had learned the hard way in her attempt to appear enlightened on the issue. She is now bearing the brunt of anger from mufti, imam and even skullcap-wearing neighbours. Moreover, she has yet to realise the high probability of Pas joining the fray.

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    10. And now she has gotten herself in a bind that will be brought up by rivals. To make it worse, in her excitement to speak on apostasy during the forum, she appeared to have forgotten Pas spiritual leader Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat's opinion on that matter.

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    11. The hudud issue between Pas and DAP has yet to subside even after all these years. The conservative Islamic party may now face a threat to its goal of an Islamic country.

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    12. Many ulama in Pas are uneasy with the statement. This is not the first time Pas has to suffer hints that its alliance with PKR and DAP may lead to perdition.

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    13. Some Pas leaders, like vice-president Salahuddin Ayub, may choose to overlook it, saying that Nurul Izzah has made clear what she said. Others may have slapped their foreheads because of her slip of the tongue.

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    14. Above all, this can lead to another problem in Pas on whether it should condemn such statement or otherwise for the sake of painting a rosy picture of Pakatan Rakyat's unity.

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    15. Will this become another thorn in Pakatan's side? It may be far-fetched to say that this will affect Malay votes for the opposition, or that it will contribute to the breakdown of the opposition alliance.

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    16. But it is simply another example of what will happen when a prominent opposition leader chooses not to think of what she says, or has a wrong political guru, to begin with.

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