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Tuesday, January 8, 2013

PR cannot have its cake and eat it too

KOTA KINABALU - A Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) source says a breakdown in seat allocation talks between the party and Pakatan Rakyat (PR) will not help PR scuttle its chances in the state.

As such, PR should choose between marching into Putrajaya and wresting control of the state, it said, adding the opposition pact can not have its cake and eat it too, Oriental Daily News reported today.

An electoral pact between PR and state opposition parties can definitely shake, or even defeat, Barisan Nasional (BN) in the next general election (GE).

But if they fail in their seat allocation talks, resulting in multi-cornered fights, it will only benefit BN.

Late last year, Parti Keadilan Rakyat adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said the party was focusing on working out a seat allocation pact with Angkatan Perubahan Sabah (APS) and Pakatan Perubahan Sabah (PPS).

However, last weekend, he said PR's seat negotiations in Sabah were being hampered by SAPP's demand to contest the lion's share of the 60 state seats.

He said the entire negotiation was rendered more difficult because all the three PR parties do not seem to agree on the need to allocate that many seats to SAPP.

It is learnt that SAPP intends to contest five to eight parliamentary and 40 state seats. In the 2008 GE, the party won all two parliamentary and four state seats it contested under the BN banner.

Anwar has roped in APS and PPS to form a five-member Sabah PR. His latest remarks on seat negotiations in the state show that Sabah PR is in a predicament – too few seats for too many parties.

"We don't know whether Anwar is creating opportunities or difficulties in the state. If all parties can talk amicably, allowing Sabah-based parties to take the lead role, things can be worked out," said the SAPP source.

It is learnt that apart from eyeing predominantly Chinese constituencies in the state, DAP is also keen to go for Kadazan-majority seats.

"Although it is seen that SAPP as Chinese-based, it is actually also a Non-Racial party will also contest in Chinese-majority areas. Party membership in SAPP has a majority of bumis over Chinese.

"If DAP insists on contesting in these seats, leaving SAPP with the same number of seats (two parliamentary and four state seats) to contest, a pact will be meaningless," added the source.

Last month, SAPP chief Datuk Yong Teck Lee said the party would continue to negotiate with State Reform Party (STAR) Sabah chairman Datuk Dr Jeffrey Kitingan on seat allocation, and the latter had told Yong to choose between peninsula-based PR and STAR.

"The two (Sabah) parties are still in negotiation. We believe STAR has its influence in some constituencies," said the source.

52 comments:

  1. it appears that opposition parties are far from reaching a consensus on a one-to-one contest with Barisan Nasional in Sabah, a key state that could hold sway on who gets to form the next government.

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    1. Jika bertanding 1 to 1 basis, pasti peluang untuk pembangkang lebih tinggi.

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    2. Lets wait and see whether they can cooperate amongst them.

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  2. This is evident from the cancellation of a forum organised by Demokrasi Sabah (Desah)aimed at getting key opposition leaders to publicly commit to a straight fight with BN. The forum came to nought after Parti Keadilan Rakyat de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim and DAP's Lim Kit Siang failed to turn up.

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  3. Desah, a local-based political pressure group headed by former state secretary Tan Sri Simon Sipaun, had hoped that leaders of PKR, DAP, Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) and the State Reform Party (STAR), the four main opposition parties expected to feature prominently in Sabah in the 13th general election, would attend the forum.

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  4. Desah opined that a one-to-one contest between the opposition and BN was crucial to provide voters a clear choice of who they preferred should form the next government, both at the state and federal levels.

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  5. While the Datuk Seri Yong Teck Lee-led SAPP appears to be prepared to compromise with PKR and DAP on the seats it intends to contest in order to avoid a split in opposition votes, STAR seems to have other ideas.

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    1. Adakah pembangkang benar ikhlas untuk bekerjasama?

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    2. JK@STAR would be the problem to get one to one fight.

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  6. Led by political nomad Datuk Dr Jeffrey Kitingan, STAR had openly made a stand that PKR and DAP should focus mainly on the 25 parliamentary seats up for grabs in Sabah, while the 60 state seats should be left to the local-based opposition parties to contest.

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  7. Political analysts believe that the recent defection of BN members of parliament Datuk Seri Lajim Ukin (Beaufort) and Datuk Seri Wilfred Mojilip Bumburing (Tuaran) to the opposition had made negotiations for common opposition candidates to take on the BN even more complicated.

    It is learnt that the two only agreed to support the opposition pact after Anwar acceded to their request to be allowed to decide on the candidates for certain seats.

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  8. Anwar had purportedly given a written undertaking to Lajim and Bumburing that they would have the "power" to decide the opposition candidates for some of the Muslim and non-Muslim majority seats.

    Both Lajim and Bumburing had respectively set up Pakatan Perubahan Sabah (PPS) and Angkatan Perubahan Sabah (PPS) as a platform to entice potential candidates, especially those currently aligned with BN, to join them.

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  9. The opposition leaders in Sabah have repeatedly expressed their optimism at reaching a compromise on fielding a single candidate to take on BN, but it is probably "easier said than done".

    The parochial stance of the local opposition leaders, particularly Kitingan, is also seen as a stumbling block for the opposition to strike a compromise.

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  10. Kitingan, who had changed his political affiliation no less than seven times, with PKR as his last stop before joining the Sarawak-based STAR, had openly said that Sabahans should be allowed to decide their destiny without interference of outside parties.

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  11. Perhaps, the biggest hurdle the opposition in Sabah needs to clear before it can strike a compromise on a straight fight against BN is to agree on who should be the chief minister if they succeeded in unseating the state BN government.

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    1. Masing-masing merebut kuasa, jangan pula melupakan kebajikan dan tanggung jawab terhadap rakyat.

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  12. I don't think the opposition will ever be able to cooperate as it is obvious that its leaders, especially Kitingan, Yong and Lajim all aspire to become the chief minister...

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    1. Just let them be. Maybe next time 3 person will be the CM of Sabah.

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  13. On the other hand, the state BN, under the leadership of Chief Minister Datuk Seri Musa Aman, is all set to mount the opposition challenge. In contrast to the opposition, component members of the state BN are said to have agreed on the ruling coalition's list of candidates for the election.

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  14. Parti komponen harus memberi sokongan yang mantap agar BN terus berkuasa.

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  15. Although it is seen that SAPP is a Chinese-based, it is actually also a Non-Racial party will also contest in Chinese-majority areas. Party membership in SAPP has a majority of bumis over Chinese.

    Adakah SAPP akan berjaya memenangi lebih banyak kerusi di PRU akan datang. YTL tidak mendapat sokongan yang baik dari rakyat lagi.

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    1. SAPP harus sedar bahawa selagi tiada perubahan dalam parti, selagi itulah SAPP akan terus ditolak oleh rakyat sabah...yang dimaksudkan ialah perubahan dalam barisan kepimpinan parti yang dilihat sebagai liabiliti kepada SAPP...mengapa SAPP perlukan kerjasama daripada PR sedangkan PR tidak memerlukan SAPP? sebabnya ialah untuk mengelak daripad perubahan dalam parti seperti yang dinyatakan berlaku kerana sudah pasti YTL terutamanya belum bersedia untuk melepaskan jawatan presiden kerana cita2 politiknya untuk menjadi KM sabah semula belum tercapai...

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  16. Pakatan Rakyat tidak cukup kuat untuk menewaskan BN di Sabah walaupun gabungan pembangkang dari Semenanjung itu telah dapat menembusi negeri di Malaysia Timur.

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  17. parti-parti dalam Pakatan Rakyat tidak bekerjasama dengan baik dengan parti-parti di Sabah.

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  18. pembangkang untuk menumbangkan BN di Sabah, ia
    mesti bersatu dan membentuk pakatan pembangkang yang sangat kuat.

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  19. kemungkinan berlaku pertandingan banyak penjuru di kalangan parti-parti pembangkang akan mengurangkan sebarang peluang mereka untuk menang.

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  20. Masalah ini mungkin dapat diselesaikan jika Ketua Umum PKR Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim dapat memujuk orang kuat Sabah seperti Jeffrey Kitingan untuk bersama Pakatan.

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  21. adalah sangat sukar bagi Pakatan
    untuk memujuk orang yang berfikiran bebas seperti Jeffrey

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  22. Jeffrey kata partinya (State Reform Party) mahu bertanding semua 60 negeri kerusi di Sabah dan empat hingga lima kerusi (parlimen) majoriti Kadasan Dusun,

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  23. Jika perancangan Jeffrey itu diteruskan, maka ia akan menjejaskan peruntukan kerusi di kalangan parti-parti pembangkang yang mahukan pertandingan satu lawan satu dengan BN.

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  24. tindakan dua ahli Parlimen (MP) BN Sabah keluar BN baru-baru ini tidak banyak menguntungkan Pakatan.

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    1. Apalagi mereka berdua ni tidak menyertai salah satu parti komponen PR tapi sebaliknya menubuhkan parti sendiri.

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  25. Anwar sedang cuba menggunakan Wilfred Bumburing dan Datuk Lajim Ukin, tetapi beliau tidak fikir yang pengaruh mereka akan melampaui Tuaran.

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  26. It will be an ideal situation if the opposition parties can work among themselves on a 1:1 basis to fight against evil, racist umno/bn regime.However, this may not be possible if the opposition parties from Malaya want to contest the majority seats of both the State and parliament seats in Sabah. This shows that PR and DAP wants to take control of the State and its wealth, and just like the present umno/bn regime to become the 'new BIG BROTHER/MASTER'. Under such a situation, Sabah will end up as a loser and no difference to the present regime, hence colonialisation from Malaya will continue to be carried out by PKR regime should the opposition comes to power after GE13.
    SAPP and STAR should work together and contest majority state seats and some parliament seats, mainly because local parties are more capable of looking after the welfare and interest of the State and its people as well as its natural resources. Sabahans are matured and capable to run the State administration after 5 decades of colonialisation by Malaya.
    The main agenda of PKR regime in this GE should the opposition wins is to take control of the State and its natural resources such as oil and gas and its wealth. If the PKR regime is sincere to fight 1:1 basis against BN then as least the majority State seats should be fought by local parties ie SAPP and STAR to prove that the new regime is genuine fighter for Sabahans' rights and to develop the State. Development of Sabah under umno/bn regime has been left far behind Malaya leaving us with a backward economy which the people has to endure and suffer despite of having rich natural and human resources.
    APS and PPS will become the stooges of Malaya as they will surrender all the rights and let the central govt to decide on all aspects of running of the State no difference to the present situation.
    Sabahans should give full support to SAPP and STAR, if not can we depend on others to fight for our rights and future. History has clearly shown that we can only depend on ourselves to determine and to take control of our destiny. As a fence sitter, I have already decided for the GE13.

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    1. APS dan PPS adalah talian hayat politik lajim dan wilfred...Anwar sangka dengan adanya lajim dan wilfred yang mesra PR, peluang PR akan lebih cerah untuk menawan sabah pada pru13 nanti...anwar tidak terfikir mengapa APS dan PPS ditubuhkan oleh lajim dan wilfred...ia hanya membuktikan bahawa anwar sudah terdesak...

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  27. APS dan PPS ni bukannya parti politik..buat apa PR mahu bincang pembahagaian kerusi dengan APS dan PPS? PR sudah terdesak sangat kah?

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  28. The PR parties did not cooperate well with the Sabah local parties.

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  29. PR is not strong enough to take on the BN in Sabah despite the peninsular-based opposition coalition having gradually made inroads into the East Malaysian state, a political pundit argues.

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  30. For the opposition to deliver a strong blow to the BN in Sabah,it must unite and form a very strong opposition coalition.

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  31. The academician said possible multi-cornered fights among the opposition parties would reduce any winning chance the opposition could have.

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  32. This problem might be solved if PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim could persuade Sabah strongman Jeffrey Kitingan.

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  33. If the State Reform Party went ahead with Jeffrey's plan to contest all the 60 Sabah state seats and four to five Kadazan Dusun majority seats, this would adversely affect seat allocations among opposition parties seeking one-to-one battles with the BN.

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  34. PARTI Reformasi Negeri (STAR) mencadangkan kepada kepada Pakatan Rakyat (PR) agar lebih menumpukan kerusi pilihan raya di Semenanjung.

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  35. Ini supaya membolehkan parti tempatan Sabah berpeluang memenangi kerusi di negeri itu bagi meraih sokongan kepada mereka.

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  36. Pengerusi Star Datuk Dr Jeffrey Kitingan berkata, mereka telah mengutarakan cadangan tersebut, tetapi ia seolah-olah tidak diendahkan.

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  37. Jelasnya, PR sepatutnya memfokuskan untuk memenangi 165 kerusi parlimen di Semenanjung bagi membolehkan parti di Sabah menumpukan kepada 25 kerusi lain di negeri itu.

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  38. Kata mereka "Kemenangan itu kemudiannya boleh kami gunakan untuk menyokong mereka. Begitu bah… Kita hanya akan rugi sekiranya bersaing sesama sendiri."

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  39. Tapi sebenarnya mereka takut bertanding dengan PR di Sabah.

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  40. Beliau mengulas permintaan Ketua Umum PKR Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim kepada Parti Maju Sabah (SAPP) untuk mengurangkan jumlah kerusi yang akan ditandingi.

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  41. Anwar meminta SAPP supaya menghentikan tuntutan untuk menandingi lebih 50 kerusi di Sabah.

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  42. Menurut Anwar, tuntutan berkenaan mematikan rundingan antara parti PAS, DAP, STAR dan Angkatan Perubahan Sabah (APS) bagi kerusi di negeri itu.

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  43. Katanya lagi, SAPP memberi petanda bahawa parti itu hanya akan berunding sekiranya diberi jaminan untuk mendapatkan lebih 50 peratus daripada kerusi negeri di Sabah.

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