Racism still exists in Malaysia. Some more a certain group of religious bastards are fanatics
Differences between Indonesia & Malaysia from a retired German lecturer P. Feisenberg who had worked in Penang during Tunku's days and in Jakarta in Suharto's time. An interesting account of his observations & gloomy prediction of the future of a young nation ...
A big divide between the two countries yet they live next to each other and both are Muslim countries.
Is this because there is a Mahathir ( and an UMNO ) in one whereas there is none in the other ?
I always tell my friend that Indonesia is not the best country in the world to work and live but since working in Indonesia for about 5 years, I don’t have the feeling that I am living in a Muslim country despite 93% of Indonesians are Muslim. 99.9% of my colleagues are Muslim and we go for lunch and dinner together and sometimes to a Chinese restaurant that served pork and there is no fuss about it. (For your information – the people who sell pork are Muslim – bosses are Chinese and employ Indonesian Muslim to cut and sell pork in the wet markets)
All 5-star hotels served pork bacon and ham for breakfast and are prepared by Muslim.
Alcohol is sold everywhere in the street… and Indonesia No 1 selling beer is “Bintang” and is brewed locally and is consumed by all Muslim openly. No issue….
During fasting month the Muslims are free to decide if they want to fast or eat as normal… no issue at all and no one catch them..
The president and vice president are elected by the people and so are the governors of the city (in Malaysia we call them Mentri Besar). No one is appointed by the President or in Malaysia by the PM.
National holidays – Hari Raya Idul Fitri is 2 days and Chinese New Year is 1 day but Christian enjoy 3 days – Christmas, Ascension of Christ and Good Friday. The Hindu in Bali has 1 day for Hari Raya Nyepi celebrated only in Bali . Wesak day is also a public holiday.
A Muslim can convert to a Christian tomorrow and then to a Buddhist the next day…and back to a Muslim. ….no issue at all.
In supermarket pork is sold side by side with chicken and beef….no issue at all…..
I can go on and on…….in short Indonesia is a very liberal Muslim country.. definitely not Malaysia . FYI our Malaysian senior government officer “suka Indonesia ”…you know why!!!
Subject: Another Report: Why I left for our ‘poorer’ neighbour — Indonesia
This writer is absolutely correct and gave a very fair view of Indonesia . I have been in and out of Indonesia for the past 10 years. Sometimes, my stay is up to one month per visit. I have worked with senior Indonesia managers as well as low level staff. I have also interacted with lots of direct sellers from all sorts of background. I have dealt with the Indonesian civil servants.
They don't talk about race. The mass media do not propagate racial or religious divides. They don't spin story of Christian fighting the Muslim or Muslim fighting the Christian. Husband and wife can have different religious belief. There is not such fuss as Halal restaurant. Tony Roma in Indonesia serves the best pork rib. In all the Tony Roma restaurants Muslim and non Muslim sit and eat together on one table. I ate pork rib, my Muslim colleagues ate beef and lamb. There is no such thing as a Halal and non Halal section.
Comparing the environment and the working culture in Indonesia between pre 1998 (Suharto's era) and the year 2008, you can see the vast improvement in Indonesia civil services.
During Suharto era, my visit to Tax office (Kantor Pajak) cannot be done without carrying cash for coffee money. The tax
officer will always start with " Pak dari Malaysia mahu chak kopi dulu". And this small favor money must be given and openly counted on his desk before any discussion.
My last visit in 2008 to the government office (Departmen Pentadbiran, you cannot use Jabatan Kerajaan. They hated the Raja), you cannot even mention anything about "Kopi". See the vast difference. SYB sent his own brother-in-law to jail. Suharto's youngest son, Tommy Suharto was jailed. Do you see this in Malaysia ?
Malaysia is rotting. And the writer is absolutely correct. If the situation is not changed, Malaysia will be the biggest exporter of maids to Indonesia , 10 years down the road. Padam muka orang orang kampong.
Muslims in Indonesia have no problem with patronizing outlets that sell alcohol or non-halal food, even if they choose not to have any. In Malaysia , the Muslims make a big fuss over small things which they claim are not halal. You may argue that there are fanatics here in Indonesia , but the number is small relative to the population. Just look around Malaysia . Everywhere you look, you get fanatics.
At least in Sabah, we still practiced moderation and religious acceptance. Although some Muslim's have very strict religious views and we do respect that, there are also some liberal Muslim's who doesn't make a fuss about patronizing places where alcohol and pork are sold.
ReplyDeleteIn Sabah, Chinese can dine in a Malay restaurant, Muslim can dine in places which does not bear the Halal Logo, some are even ok with places that serve pork but they won't eat it of course. Its rare to see this in West Malaysia.
Proud to be a Sabahan and to live in Sabah! Say no to fanatics.
DeleteTHIS IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. NOT "STILL EXIST" BUT "RAMPANT IN MALAYSIA!" WAKE UP!
Delete"Racism still exists in Malaysia. Some more a certain group of religious bastards are fanatics"
This is an old comment but still relevant.
But the truth be told UMNO RACIST/FASCISM IS RAMPANT! ADOLFH HITLER IS THEIR MENTOR!
Let us have no illusion that Sabah Sarawak are equal partner with Malaya on Malaysia or that we have real independence or any democracy or social justice and equality in the UMNO imposed apartheid colonial society.
SABAH SARAWAK KELUAR MALAYSIA NOW!
I'm proud to be a Sabahan because our people are able to live in harmony regardless of our race and faith.
ReplyDeleteProud to be Sabahan too..we should know how to keep our state remain in harmony.
DeleteActually our Malaya Moslem were very moderate until BN came up with relevant department n policies that make a big fuss over every little things that is non Islamic. The prime individuals as a product of this hypocrisy are ibrahim Ali and Hassan Ali. Both are fighting for hypocrisy and non existence threats against Islam, Malay n ruler.
ReplyDeleteRacism will bring disaster to Malaysia that consist of multi racial society.
ReplyDeleteWTF! Why there is no more Chinese working in public sector in Sabah? UMNO is racist!
ReplyDeletetiada meh??? adabah guru2 ada juga orang cina. Ramai yang ajar BI, MATH,
DeleteAdalah 1% saja. 95% muslim bumi + PATI.
DeleteUNMO is racist and selfish !! Not to mention they are liars and thieves ... I'm glad to be born in Sabah.
ReplyDeleteThe fanatics and racists should live in an isolated island. Their existance within our society brings disaster. They should feel shame with their peanut size brain.
ReplyDeleteisu racist tak harus timbul, contohi masyarakt Sabah dan Sarawak d mana penduduknya walaupun berbilang kaum, namun hidup bersatu padu.
ReplyDeleteantam ja la kamu..yg penting tiada perang suda laa
ReplyDeleteI must agree that in Sabah and Sarawak are more open if compare to west Malaysia.
ReplyDeleteWest Malaysia should learn and follow, because this is good things to follow.
ReplyDeleteRamai juga yang saya lihat perkerja awam di Swasta. Tambahan lagi ada sesetengan kaum cina lebih berminat dalam perniagaan berbanding maka gaji saja.
ReplyDeleteKita penduduk Malaysia tetap akan mengekalkan keamaan dan kesefahaman antara semua kaum.
ReplyDeleteyou should try to tell to Malaysian one by one about your experience in Indonesia.. and you can see who actually can't adapt with such culture..
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