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Wednesday, August 8, 2012
Mahathir trying to justify Projek IC
Former prime minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad says opposition to naturalising migrants in Sabah is unfair and political.
In a blog posting today, he said the population boom in Sabah was justified as many of the migrants had lived in the state for a long time and they and their children were fluent in the Bahasa Malaysia.
"On the basis of the length of stay and mastering of the national language, they qualify to be citizens of this country, and so the acquired citizenship," he said.
In comparison, Mahathir said, citizenship have been given to those who were not fluent in Bahasa Malaysia but have lived in Malaysia for a long time.
"So why cannot the migrants of Sabah who have all these qualifications be accepted as citizens? The objections to them being accepted seem to be political," he said.
The blog posting comes ahead of Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak's planned visit to Sabah this weekend, during which he is also expected to finally announce the terms of reference for the royal commission of inquiry on illegal migrants being made citizens in Sabah.
Mahathir had been linked to Project IC, a name given to the alleged citizenship drive to naturalise illegal migrants for political purposes, which started in the 1990s.
Malaysians forget they too have foreign origins
Parti Bersatu Sabah had at a National Human Rights Council roundtable presented a study into the population boom in Sabah, showing that in 2002, more than 200,000 foreigners left Sabah without documentation.
However, they returned with legal documents under different names and destroyed the papers once they expired, PBS supreme council member Dr Chong Eng Leong said when presenting the study.
Mahathir claims to have "little knowlege" about Project IC, while his then deputy and now PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim said he was kept out of the loop on this.
In his blog posting, Mahathir claimed that choosing not to naturalise migrants in Sabah was also racist, and that Malaysians should accept that their fellow citizens may come from different backgrounds.
He added that many Malaysians forget they have "foreign origins", from India, the Arab world, Indonesia, Turkey and even Europe, but all are now accepted as indigenous to Malaysia.
"There was a time in the distant past when parties based on ideology contested in elections. They were all rejected in favour of race-based parties.
"If we don't want our politics to be race-based, then we must forget our racial origins, speak the national language as our mother tongue and swear allegiance only to this country," Mahathir said.
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Saya sangat setuju pandangan dan pendapat tun, kalau tun nak kan PATI di beri kerakyatan, tun dan umno ambil dan angkut semua PATI pindah ke semenanjung. Kami rakyat sabah tak ingin PATI Menjadi warganegara sabah. saya rasa org tua ne betul2 dah nanyuk.
ReplyDeleteHahahhahaa, idea yang bernas:P
DeleteWell he was the one who called illegals to come in, for sure he will defend himself.
DeleteAll PATI should be transferred to semenanjung.
DeleteHairan bin ajaib dia(Tun Maha) sanggup buat urang sabah menerima kebanjiran PATI di Sabah. Mesti ada yang tak kena ngan otak dia ni kan...??? Pati memang didahulukan di negeri Sabah, orang asal ...no way!
ReplyDeleteWahai Bn/umNO bawalah semua pati tu ke semenanjung, kasi tinggal di rumah kamu atau di kandang lembu NFC kah..........
T U K A R................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T U K A R................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T U K A R................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bah ko ikut Bumburing la.
DeleteApa salahnya kalau mereka taat kepada Malaysia dan Raja.Ini semua cerita melebeh dari pembangkang.
ReplyDeleteUntuk mdapatkan kerakyataan dengan betul harus melalui undang-undang yang betul. Tetapi ramai PATI mendapat kerakyataan malaysia dengan mengunakan projek ic. Kalau tidak mengunakan undang-undang dan tidak mengikut peraturan dengan betul, maka tak lah sah.
DeletePATI memang tak sah punya, PATI tak pernah memohon atas namanya sendiri tapi atas nama penduduk tempatan yang telah meninggal dunia dan ada pembohongan pada surat akuan yang mereka ini lahir di Sabah serta permohonan yang tidak melalui peraturan yang sah.
DeleteKalau Tun mahu, bawalah mereka(PATI) ini ke istana-istana raja Malaya dan bukan di Sabah.
Berapa saja yang taat? PATI dan PATAI selalu buat hal di Sabah. Takkan mahu bagi muka lagi sama mereka sampai orang tempatan sendiri kena pijak2?
DeleteNamanya juga PATI (pendatang asing tanpa iszin) mestilah kita tak suka. Tapi kalau dorang ada keizinan utk stay di Sabah melalui proses undang-undang yang betul rasanya takkan ada yang mahu marah juga la...
DeleteCuma bila pati vukan saja masuk dari pintu belakang tapi juga buat hal di Sabah, konpomlah Sabahan tolak habis-habisan pati ini.
DeleteMahathir has long lost his marbles. Should stuff his stinking mouth with rotten eggs (shells intact) and pelt him with same. He should pray to leave soonest the land of the living. He's an arsehole as big as rip in the ozone . This conman will make a lot of people turn momentarily insane.
ReplyDeleteSome people commands zero respect from the transparent, democratic parts of the world. Often the mere appearance or utterance of someone can be nauseating, especially someone detested in the international community; self-aggrandizing, super-racist, boosts apartheid, with no consideration for human-rights & equality. How can one race have special privilege? All citizens are equal in a democracy and in the eyes of God. Corrupt Malaysian leaderships cannot attract men of integrity; neither can they enact & foster laws to maintain high moral standards, transparency, performance
ReplyDeleteSome politicians are righteous, infallible, great and God-like…only in their own distorted & deranged minds. He will be remembered as one who presided over the period that brought astronomical corruption, nepotism, financial losses, racism and apartheid to Malaysia. From an impartial, democratic, transparent 3rd country. We see too clearly. Let me ask him & UMNO leaders, with their undemocratic antics and multi-billion squander and losses, how long would he and UMNO leaders last in US, UK, Can, Aus & NZ before being brought to court? 55 years or 5 weeks?
ReplyDelete14/2/2011 Financial Twitter: ... But if you think Hosni Mubarak is the richest man on earth, wait till you hear what has former dictator Mahathir Mohamad plundered. ….Using the same rule of thumb that Mubarak “earned” about US1 billion to US2 billion annually, Mahathir’s wealth easily top US$22 to US$44 billion over his 22-year of iron-fist rule. However Malaysia has more natural resources than Egypt and economically, Malaysia is richer although not necessary less corrupted than Egypt. Just like Egypt, corruption in Malaysia is so entrenched that every institutions are tainted – from the monarchy, judiciary, executive, legislature to the lowest ranking policemen on the street. Hence Mahathir is easily worth more than that.” Why do you think Mahathir’s sons are directors of 200 companies and drive some of the most expensive cars in the world? eg the Ferrari Enzo & the RM5.5million Bugatti Veyron…
ReplyDeleteSome people commands zero respect from the transparent, democratic parts of the world. Often the mere appearance or utterance of someone can be nauseating, especially someone detested in the international community; self-aggrandizing, super-racist, boosts apartheid, with no consideration for human-rights & equality. How can one race have special privilege? All citizens are equal in a democracy and in the eyes of God. Corrupt Malaysian leaderships cannot attract men of integrity; neither can they enact & foster laws to maintain high moral standards, transparency, performance
ReplyDeleteThis old crook try to justify what he did and at the same time try to show the Moslem voters in general that what he did pro Moslem.
ReplyDeleteHe thought Moslem especially in west Malaysia can easily fooled by this well timed justification in view Sabah RCI shall be annouced by PM.
He is notoriously known as one of the Malay supremacist leader in Malaysia.
DeleteHe wants to play down the seriousness of issuing IC to PATI since RCI will b announced in Sabah.
ReplyDeleteHe also wants to buy the hearts of PATI in Sabah and reminds them to vote BN as BN is the one allows them flourish in Sabah
He is certainly wants to let us down.
DeleteDimana pemimpin-pemimpin sabah, kenapa tidak bersuara dengan kenyataan tun maha, kenapa diam sahaja. Apa gunanya RCI yang dilaungkan oleh pemimpin-pemimpin sabah, jika kenyataan tun maha tidak diselar. Dan untuk tun maha, jika tun maha menegakkan kenyataan tun, pastikan juga PATI di semenanjung di beri kerakyataan malaysia, dan juga jika tun suka sangat dengan PATI, engkau ambilah semua, rakyat sabah beri percuma. Bawa dan angkut semua PATI ke semenanjung. Spesis PATI ne bukan spesis asal dari sabah, spesis ne menggangu rakyat sabah. Dan jangan lupa juga beri kerakyataan spesis bangla yang banyak di semenanjung.
ReplyDeleteDear Tun, IT'S BECAUSE THEY ENTERED SABAH THROUGH ILLEGAL CHANNELS YOU IDIOT!!! You were never a Sabahan. You have never lived like us in Sabah. And you dare enough to speak of those nonsense?! You sir are by far the stupidest human being Malaysia ever had. CONGRATS! If foreigners, of various religions and races, came through the PROPER CHANNELS, it won't be a problem. We would gladly welcome them. But these PTIs DID NOT CAME LEGALLY ergo, the term "PTI" and must be dealt with accordingly by the law.
ReplyDeleteHe was known in '80-'90 by many as IBM...what's that?Anyone?
DeleteAnd yet rakyat specially sabahan want to justify his ill act on Projek I/C he came up with this!!!
In fact,suppose he was so unhappy as for point 5/20points Sabah clearly understood 'Malaysia' rather the 'Melayu Raya' which any other malaysian races never hear of the name even in childhood.
Hope Lim Kit Siang can come up with a debate with MCA Chua Soi Lek to explain to all malaysian where come 'Melayu Raya' as agreed by malaysian or Federation of Malaya at that time.No right-minded malaysian will want to see such words or phrase 'Melayu Raya' appear in the context of our nation!
Tun M, the 'melayu mudah lupa' suits you.
Delete敬爱的佛教伩徒,
ReplyDelete有关马來西亜,吉隆坡,甲洞帝沙再也 (暹寺) 三宝寺 Samnak Sambodhi Buddhist Association No.19-21 Jalan 38 Taman Desa Jaya, Kepong 52100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. 所发生的纠纷, 经过阅读了,Venerable Phra Piya Thammo 和尚及叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook) 的双方书信之后, 再经实地旁听了觧,做为中间人,我要客观实事的说:
1.当一个和尚、初出道 (小学生),在修行, 若有缺点, 那是难免.他马华公会鹅唛區会主地席叶金福律师(Yip Kum Fook),却心眼看不顺,就电招警万到耒佛教之圣地要扣畄和尚耒耻唇出家人, 这是绝对不许可, 除非是殺人放火之大罪悪.
2.他身为马华公会鹅唛區会主席叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook),却反其道而行, 在佛寺不依佛法而軽视佛教的精神, 以傲慢的手段,帶领一般黑社会的人耒挑衅和尚打架, 这也是不该有、更不是佛教修行者的行为.
3.佛教的圣地, 其主要的目地, 是让眾生修佛道, 不是政治争執的地方. 他马华公会鹅唛区会主席叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook), 却利用佛教之圣地当政治活动的场所。如此果敢冒犯佛陀的教誨,更是大大的罪悪。
囯有囯章,彿有佛法,家有家规. 如果出家人有何不对之处, 他叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook), 为何不向主持和尚投?让出家人自依和尚的條规处理、却强权一味要显示他是马华公会鹅唛区会及三宝寺理事会主席, 无法无天的应用霸道手段践踏佛教之圣地.为什么。。。。。为什么.
至今, 他叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook),不当不歉愧,还要狡辩, 这又证明了他说一套, 做的又是另一套, 囗是心非, 所谓的两舌, 相当阴险. 身为律师, 受高深教育, 却应用如此悪毒, 横蛮无礼的作风污辱和尚, 相等于是耻辱佛教伩仰者。他叶金福律师(Yip Kum Fook)不向主持和尚投诉, 却自承英雄,电招外耒者.请问,身为將近20年的三宝寺主持和尚兼顾问,也是第一位 自筹建寺的大功臣,在大马南傳泒中,是闻名遐邇的高僧.其脸要放在那裡?同样的,要是台湾星雲大师的佛寺沙彌犯錯, 理事会没有礼貌自作主张,电招警方要扣畄其沙彌.我敢请问!星雲大师的自尊是怎样的感受?他叶金福律师(Yip Kum Fook)是后耒者,担任理会主席也不久, 竟敢应用如此,目无尊長的方式对待住持,间接的就是告大家,强迫住持和尚必远離,雀巢鸠要佔。这种用心不良, 有老千之谋, 的确令人不敢恭维。
縱观以上几项重点,我不是盲目的護持三宝, 而是要坦白的说;他叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook) 身受高深教育, 为律师者,本应通情达理才是,但遗憾的是, 却令人惊觉, 他厡耒就是彿书裡所讲的狡猾且残忍的此颣人。他叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook),利用他的专业知識, 懂得包裝自己的道德守則,以宗教为幌子手,到处募款,商业经营, 政治活动为重, 并没依循佛教宗教守则行事, 也没对人道作出任何貢献, 只不过借宗教之名捞取权和私利而己。
在此, 我奉劝, 他马华公会鹅唛区会主席叶金福律师 (Yip Kum Fook), 好自为之, 免因果報应.
It could be a blessing this Tun is no more a PM.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise,cannot imagine how illegal alien soon to become our future CM and Sabah will be governed by PATAI in near future.
So RCI a must and CHANGE SEKARANG.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Enough is enough. Tun M already retired, behave like a retired man. No need to intervene.
DeleteHe might be retired but it is as if he still rule Malaysia.
DeleteHanya orang Sabah saja yang benar2 faham bagaimana kritikalnya masalah PATI di Sabah ni.sebab itulah penubuhan RCI ni dituntut sejak dari dulu lagi.
ReplyDeleteAnd those outsiders who doesn't know how critical the PATI issue in Sabah better shut their mouth!
DeleteYa betul tu. Bukan orang Sabah namanya kalau dorang taktau betapa teruknya perangai pati di Sabah. huhuhu
Deletemasalah PATI di Sabah dah tahap kritikal, kerana itu RCI amati diperlukan.
DeleteI really don't understand why Mahathir still trying to justify Project IC.
ReplyDeleteBecause he is one of the mastermind for this project ic?
Deleteitula ba. dia ingat dia cute ka mau pura2 innocent.
Deletemungkin beliau ada kaitan dengan projek IC...maka takut lah...najib tidak takut menubuhkan RCI..
Deletehe is not in the power anymore.. he can't do anything like what he done during his tenure..
ReplyDeleteyes....he is now an outsider...no need to listen to him...
DeleteWe don't listen to him, but najip always listen to him
Deletethose who disagree with him should at least make a police report..
ReplyDeleteAgree, rakyat sabah want the pemimpin sabah make a police report.where are u all pemimpin sabah.
DeleteSO SABAHANS OF ALL RACES AND RELIGION COME SPEAK UP THIS GE13,A VOTE FOR UMNO/BN MEANS AVOTE FOR ALL PATIS IN SABAH TO BE ACCORDED MALAYSIAN CITIZENSHIP AND A VOTE FOR OPPOSITIONS MEANS A VOTE FOR ALL PATIS MALAYSIAN CITIZENSHIPS TO BE ANULLED
ReplyDeleteSeveral government officers have been arrested under the Internal Security Act for allegedly issuing MyKad to foreigners. Recently, Tawau police detained a 52 year old National Registration Department (NRD) officer from Putrajaya and 18 others in connection with a MyKad applications scam.
ReplyDeletethe state government viewed the matter very seriously and was doing all it could to solve it.
ReplyDeleteSabah Umno deputy liaison chief Datuk Seri Salleh Said Keruak said the issues of illegal immigrants or the ‘Project IC’ should not be politicised and is not an easy task to solve. As such, he suggested that all parties should sit down and contribute ideas towards finding a last solution to the perennial problem.
ReplyDeleteIf all other mechanisms have been exhausted and still not satisfactory and effective to solve illegal immigrants in Sabah, the setting up the Royal Commission of Inquiry as an option to look at the roots of the problem and to suggest recommendation to resolve it. he motioned that the terms of reference must be to resolve the issues once and for all.
ReplyDeleteState BN commponent parties, particularly Parti Bersatu Sabah (PBS) and United Pasokmomogun Kadazan Dusun Murut Organisation (Upko) have been vocal on the RCI as part of the efforts to address decades long issue of the illegal immigrants in Sabah. Therefore it should be depolitised the issue and focus on efforts in resolving it.
ReplyDeletePBS and UPKO cease being lame ducks. Mahathir should be hanged by his sunken balls on the fastest moving ceiling fan
ReplyDeleteOMG you are so mean....what's make you so mean?? Calm down bogia....nanti sakit jantung susah ooo
DeleteKami PATI Sabah akan bertahankan kedudukan BN di Sabah. Dr Mahathir adalah penyelamat kami dan dianggap Nabi kepada semua PATI di Sabah.
ReplyDeleteJangan kamu nak cakap cakap yang tak baik mengenai Nabi kami nanti buruk balasannya !!!!
Kamu tak puas hati keluar lah dari Sabah tanah air Ku juga!!!!
Astaga ada juga arrr ba selamat berjaya la...
DeleteKami PATI-PATI PILAK seMalaysia akan menyokong NABI kami Muhamad Mahadir.PATI-PATI PILAK akan menyembah beliau sampai dineraka.
DeletePATI dengan projek IC. Mungkin memang perlu ada siasatan untuk mencari dalang dalam semua masalah ini.
ReplyDeleteSiapa dalang sebenar, tapi isu PATI masih lagi berkumandang ditelinga kita...jd kalau pun dapat dalangnya, pasti isu PATI tidak akan reda juga.
Deletememang perlu siasatan...kalau dapat cari dalang besar, maka pengkhianat ini harus dihukum mati...
Deleteselepas siasatan nanti, yang bersalah haruslah dihukum.
DeleteDULANG ATAU KILANG PATI INI.....DALANGNYA MAHATHIR BANGALI LAH.BODOH.....PAKAI OTAKLAH..BODOH.
DeleteMahathir should know better than us, and he should give a clear statement on the issue.
ReplyDeletekalau bagi mereka kewarganegaraan dan tempatkan mereka di negeri2 melayu di semenanjung, saya setuju...
ReplyDeleteMemang kebanyakan PATI ditempatkan di negeri Semenanjung, Selangor merupakan negeri yang paling banyak PATI, jauh lebih tinggi daripada bilangan PATI di Sabah. KL pula yang kedua tinggi bilangan PATI.
Deletekalau bagi PATI kewarganegaraan, bagi IC dari semenanjung...bukan IC dari sabah...
ReplyDeleteSebenarnya negeri yang paling banyak PATI di Malaysia adalah Selangor.
Deletesyarat kewarganegaan malaysia adalah sangat longgar...sesiapa saja boleh menjadi warganegara termasuklah penganas....syarat kewarganegaraan harus diperketatkan lagi...
ReplyDeleteCadangan yang bagus untuk mengetatkan lagi syarat kewarganegaraan supaya pengawalan kemasukan rakyat baru boleh dibuat.
DeleteWe may even have terrorist living among us in sabah.. >.<
DeleteIsu pati harus diberi perhatian sewajarnya. Jangan dibiarkan saja nanti makin lama makin bertambah teruk.
ReplyDeleteDiharapkan Datuk Najib Razak akan membuat pengumuman mengenai RCI pada Ogos 11.
Deletejika RCI diumumkan, bermakna tak lama lagi ia akan ditubuhkan dan masalah PATI di akan selesai.
DeleteThe situation in sabah is becoming more and more serious. If it is no being solved as soon as possible, sabah will soon be outnumbered by the pati and we will be refugee in our own state.
Deletesemua pun inginkan masalah pati ini diselesaikan dengan segera.
DeleteHopefully this illegal immigrants issue will be resolved before the next general elections so that we can ensure a clean and fair 13th GE.
ReplyDeleteThat is what every sabahan hope for.
DeleteTo TUN M : " The best compliment you can pay to stupidity is to step aside so it can be seen by everybody. "
ReplyDelete(Marius Torok (1977)
"he said the population boom in Sabah was justified as many of the migrants had lived in the state for a long time and they and their children were fluent in the Bahasa Malaysia."
ReplyDeleteYea, lived in the state for a long time in the first place because of PROJECT IC.
I hope with the implementation of RCI in sabah, it would be able to find the culprit behind all these pati issue. It doesn't matter who the person is, he/she must be punished heavily.
Deletepanel sudah dipilih untuk RCI. harap ini akan mampu selesaikn isu pati yang berlaku.
ReplyDeleteTan Sri Steve Shim dilantik utk mengetuai panel RCI utk menyiasat isu pati di Sabah. ini perkembangan yang baik.
ReplyDeletesemoga RCI itu nanti akan berjaya mencari penyelesaian terbaik untuk isu pati.
ReplyDeleteSiasatan RCI harus dibuat dengan Amanah. Jangan pula boleh dikawal mana-mana jabatan atau kuasa besar.
ReplyDeletePATI harus dihantar balik ke negara asal.
ReplyDeleteTerbukti kerajaan juga ikhlas untuk menyelesaikan masalah PATI.
ReplyDeleteJabatan mana yang meberikan ic kepada PATI?
ReplyDeleteJangan membairkan kes PATI ini berpanjangan, golongan ini menjejas perkembangan eokonomi dan membawa masalah social.
ReplyDelete