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Saturday, February 11, 2012

Scorpenes double charged price

The actual cost of the two French submarines sold to Malaysia could be half of the total amount paid.

PARIS: According to different sources in France, the two Scorpene submarines sold to Malaysia would have cost about 670 million euros (RM2.1billion in 2002*), about half of the total deal.

The sale of the two Scorpene submarines to Malaysia, signed in June 2002 by the DCN-I in France and managed by the commercial company Armaris one month later, is part of a larger programme called Soumalais. This programme is divided into four contracts – Scorpene, Malsout, Training and Ouessant.

According to the report of the French Ministry of Defence in 2002-2003, total orders for the Malaysian Navy in 2002-2003 were estimated at 686.5 million euros, of which 671. 2 million was for submarines. Knowing the average price of a Scorpene submarine, the question is if it was the price for one or two submarines.

SIPRI, the global database used by researchers in defence, mentioned that France and Spain exported one submarine each to Malaysia, as part of a 1.2 billion euros deal. It also showed that in 2009 (date of the delivery of submarines), US$335 million was paid by Malaysia to France, and US$299 million to Spain.

The database also mentioned a 50% discount. This discount is not the one for the Ouessant submarine on which the Malaysian submariners were trained. This submarine, the Agosta class type, which is about to be transformed as a museum in Malaysia, had been given for free last fall (but Malaysia did pay for it to be restored, according to the Ouessant contract).

These reports suggest that the average price of one submarine sold to Malaysia is about 335 millions euros. An amount confirmed by Armaris – which closed its doors while the Malaysian NGO Suaram was lodging a complaint for corruption in France. Financial reports of the company in 2002 mentioned a contract of 682.7 million euros for the building of the two submarines.

Expensive or not?

In general, it is difficult to estimate the price of a submarine, which varies greatly depending on options. Nevertheless, the average price would rise rather between 400 and 450 million euros for a Scorpene submarine, a price that can easily double depending on options.

For example, the Scorpene sold to Chile cost between 400 and 460 million euros and 750 million euros for India. Compared to it, the Malaysian submarines would have cost between 300 and 340 million euros.

Moreover, according to a public report on the management of the French company DCN, in 2002 the company had lost a lot of money and was criticised for not being profit-oriented (the submarines were sold with heavy financial losses to Pakistan).

Given the competitive environment in 2002, it is also quite possible that DCN sold its submarines at a low price, hoping to hit the market not only in Malaysia, but also other countries in Southeast Asia.
The sale of the two Scorpene submarines, signed on June 5, 2002, is currently the subject of Suaram’s complaint for corruption.

The application for incorporation in civil part of Suaram in France was accepted last December and the appointment of an independent judge should only be a matter of time.
*(1 Euro=RM3.2 in 2002)

CĂ©line Boileau is a Paris-based freelance writer.

24 comments:

  1. What is done, is done. The money is already paid what else can be done?

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  2. All I have is advice for the government to have better financial management and transparency.

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  3. The price paid is double because 50% is paid as kickback...... right?

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  4. Isu ini sudah lama,sudah basi dan semua rakyat tau.Kemukakan lah isu baru takut pula makin lama makin 'boring' baca Wikisabah.

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    1. betul.. suka betul bangkitkan isu lama, tiada idea sudah kali..

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    2. isu scorpene rasanya belum selesai lagi..

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    1. Tapi kesan kepada rakyat kerana pembaziran yang begitu banyak sangat terasa. Kalau saudara tidak kisah pasal ini bermakna saudara setuju dengan pembaziran wang yang begitu banyak. Tutup mata saja lah ikut telunjuk orang atasan atas alasan isu sudah basi BANGUNLAH DARI TIDUR SAUDARA .. INI SUDAH SIANG HARI

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  6. The amount has been agreed , so why bother even bringging it up again?

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    1. Story also can be recycled mah..

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    2. Wang yang digunapakai adalah wang rakyat hasil daripada pembayar cukai.UMNO BN sebagai kuasa tertinggi dan monopoli akan mengatasi semua peraturan.Untuk menjaga dan memelihara serta membeli kesetiaan orang orang mereka,UMNO terpakailah wang ini macam juga BRIM 500,pakai dulu wang LHDN,EPF dan KWAP.
      Tidak salah kan?

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    3. So,this matter should not be bothered?so people like u, our state has become the poorest state in the country? Cost overruns of mega projects can be ignored, past things shouldn't be brought up and we have to look forward for better future, where is your conscience? If you're bored, don't read it but instead you're still here to heap praises to our current government, are you scared that the people will make change or new government?that's what I thought!

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    4. Only a few people agree to the quoted price (this may include you) but I never agree to this if I was consulted.

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  7. Orang Sabah kena baca surat khabar lama lah.Besok mungkin tersiar pasal May 13 lepas itu pasal Sodomy 1 dan 2 dan lepas itu pasal PBS di jatuhkan dll.Bila mau siarkan lagi cerita Michael Chia?Sabah ini undur kebelakang bukan saja dari segi jalanraya tapi berita juga.Kalau tegur dia cakap jangan baca.Mentaliti dunia ketiga sama juga dengan Zimbahwee.

    Surat khabar lama! Ada mau beli?

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    1. hehe...saya mahu beli surat khabar baru. ada jual ka. Berita sudah lama sudah jadi sejarah. sudah juga kena kasi isu jadi apa mahu bising lagi. Mahu tahu juga berita yang baru2. baru la up to date. Berita baru isu pun baru juga.

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    2. Sodomy 1 dan 2?? apa barang. China doll ba sekarang.

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    3. walaupun sudah berlalu tapi kesannya tetap terasa. jadikan ia sebagai pengajaran.

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  8. Perkara ini sengaja dibangkitkan semula oleh sesetengah pihak.

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  9. ulang tayang.. sampai sekarang saya tunggu keputusan dari mahkamah perancis.. sampai sekarang senyap saja..

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  10. EEH! BIKIN TAKUT INI KAPAL SELAM. ADA GHOST SI ALTANTUYA!

    JIKA PEMBANGKANG MENANG KES INI PASTI AKAN DIBONGKAR SEMULA TERMASUK KES2 TBH,SARBINI, KUGAN, AMINURASHID ,NFC DLL.

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  11. YA! KASI PENJARA SI NAJIB DAN RAZAK BAGINDA DI DALAM KAPAL ITU SUPAYA DORANG BOLEH BELAWAN SAMA SI ALTANTUYA PUNYA GHOST.

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  12. SODOMY 1 DAN 2 SDH TERBUKTI TIADA KES. TAPI KES KAPAL SELAM VS PEMBUNUHAN KJAM ALTANTUYA MASIH JAUH DARI SELESAI.

    CD/VIDEO LUCAH OLEH THE THREE STOOGES PULA SUDAH KEDAPATAN DIUPAH UNTUK MENGEKALKAN KUASA UMNO PENIPU. DI KGAU MINGGU LEPAS SAJA SDH KEDAPATAN UMNO PUNYA BOSS MEMBERI IC KEPADA ORANG BUGIS SEKITAR 2,000 ORANG.

    MALU, MALU! UMNO BN MEMANG TIDAK HABIS2 MAHU MENIPU DAN MEMBODOHKAN ORANG ASAL SABAH.

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  13. macam mana sudah keputusan mahkamah Perancis.. bilang banyak perkara akan didedahkan oleh mahkamah itu.. tapi kenapa sampai sekarang senyap.. takkan la mahkamah Perancis pun boleh jadi tool BN..

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