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Tuesday, June 26, 2012
Jeffrey cannot claim to speak for Borneo: PKR
TAMPARULI: A recent debate organised by NGO Desah on whether a state or national party is the solution to solving Sabah's problems saw Star (State Reform Party) being asked as to who gave its Sabah chapter President Datuk Dr Jeffrey Kitingan the right to claim to represent Borneo through his Borneo Agenda.
This is in account of Borneo being vast and including Kalimantan and Brunei.
Moderated by Dr Arnold Puyok of UiTM, some 200 mostly supporters of the two parties thronged the Tamparuli Recreation Club for the debate between Pajudin Nordin of PKR and Edward Linggu of Star.
Star countered by asking who gave the mandate for Pakatan Rakyat to write their Buku Jingga manifesto?
Star contended that West Malaysian parties do not have Sabah's best interests at heart with PR being no better than another BN exploitive clone.
Pajudin replied that all leaders and the supporters contributed to the Buku Jingga and that had Jeffrey been with PR, his signature would have been included as well.
PKR's Pajudin pointed out that Star was a resurrected Sarawak import that was rejected by Sarawakians with its candidates losing their deposits in the elections.
"Star is a party formed to champion the Dayaks," he said, noting there were some Star supporters in the audience with the Sarawak flag on their sleeves.
He was also blunt in accusing Star of being a spoiler.
Star retorted by branding PR a Malayan political coalition which should rightly be confined within the shores of Malaya as was agreed between leaders during the formation of Malaysia to vie for only 65pc of the parliamentary seats while Sabah and Sarawak were rightly entitled to 35 percent of the parliamentary seats as a check and balance system to avoid concentrating two-third majority in Malaya for KL to change the constitution at its whims and fancies.
PKR came prepared with their own vocal cheerleaders puncturing the debate session with shouts of "Reformasi" and "Lain Kali-lah" every time Star supporters shouted "Ini kali-lah".
Star revealed one of their ideas to be implemented once taking over Sabah - the formation of a Native Land Foundation to buy over distressed NT lands on foreclosure or from owners until they redeemed them later with means acquired thereafter.
Star Sabah head Dr Jeffrey had mentioned in the first debate that the party aspired to be a kingmaker working with either the BN or PR in power to regain Sabah's autonomy and rights as an equal partner in the Federation of Malaysia comprising Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak.
PKR asked the audience to ponder whether was it realistic for Star to be able to affect all the desired changes without changing the structure of the Federal Government.
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SARAWAKIANS SUPPORT SABAH STAR LEADERSHIP IN STRUGGLE FOR INDEPENDENCE RIGHTS
ReplyDeleteSome of us are stupid to trust any Malayan parties since even the opposition still treat us as colonies as seen in the recent Pakatan "Shadowy Cabinet" line-up.
What so great about PKR?
It is not even a Sabah or Sarawak Party. It is a foreign party which as seen above will represent Malayan interests just as UMNO!
As equal partners in Malaysia Sabah and Sarawak are powerless board members with not real votes despite our role as paymasters and economic importance to Malaya! Just colonies!
We must rely on ourselves to win back our right to national independence !
INI KALI LAH!
PKR = keluar mulut harimau, masuk mulut buaya!
Deletetu PKR mahu jadi raja di sabah..dia mahu hero padahal sama juga dia mahu kikis sumber kekayaan sabah..
DeletePKR, GET LOST. THIS IS MY TIME TO SHINE !
ReplyDeleteBetter I choose the local party.
DeleteTHE TIME IS NOW...YOU CAN'T SEE ME...YOUR TIME'S UP (PKR-UMNO)...MY TIME IS NOW(STAR)...INI KALI LAH..!!
ReplyDeleteStar-rejected party from Sarawak.
DeleteThe STAR is going to be bright. You just wait. I so.... want to see how spectacular both aurora Borealis and Australis are myself.
DeleteSTAR, jangan buang masa..
DeleteStar tak kena terima di Sarawak, jadi datang ke Sanah.. itupun diketuai Jeffrey kaki lompat.. tiadalah Star kalau di Sabah.
Deletetiada peluang menang ni Star..kalau ada menang pun tidak akan membentuk kerajaan negeri..cakap besar saja ni Star...tu PKR pun 2x5 juga..
DeleteKami menanti sejauh mana STAR boleh pergi.
DeleteI think there will be no cooperation between Star and PKR. no one to one fight.trust me!
ReplyDeleteSTAR dan PKR, bagus lah teruskan berbalah.. BN akan menang juga nanti.
Deletemmg tiada tidak akan sampai persefahaman, Star kan suruh pakatan balik Malaya.
DeleteSTAR may not be bright in Sarawak because of lack lustre leas=dership but it is certainly blazing in Sabah- nothing wrong with that!
DeleteThe most important thing is that Sabah has leaders who are prepared to strongly fight for Sabah rights especially for independence.
Jeffrey has declared the Party's stand for independence. He cannot backtrack.
We support him.
OBVIOUSLY. There will be no cooperation between them. Gigit jari sajalah lepas PRU13 ni.
Deleteof course there's no cooperation between Star and PKR...BN will win again in 13 GE..
DeleteMasing-masing ada agenda, bukan mudah untuk bekerjasama.
DeleteThe shadow cabinet list, even not confirmed, shows PR's attitude towards the Borneo states. There are some in the opposition who know whats good for Borneo but there are many perhaps who don't have a clue. Although one of the main aims, we can agree upon, is to remove BN/UMNO. The thing is every party have their own ideas on how this can be done and the other is agreeing on what each wants after the first aim has been achieved. At the moment, I am leaning towards STAR but I would like STAR to make a stance. Is STAR going for autonomy or independence? Has PR agreed to the agreements? 20% oil revenue is a joke! No doubt STAR threads a dangerous road if they go to battle alone. The same could be said with a STAR-PR alliance. Although gaining ground, is STAR strong enough to remove BN and become the next government? I must admit, they do need help in picking up the pace even more or especially when it comes to planning and actual policies. No doubt, Sabahans are good enough to steer their country towards a better future but the right crew are needed to manage the ship. There will be a lot of questions. I challenge Jeffery Kitingan to make it official. Just say the word. We are ready! We want to help manage the ship. We are not afraid anymore. All local leaders who are true to the Sabahan cause, unite as one. We support PR to battle it out in their own turf. We support Sarawak too!
ReplyDeletehighlanderofborneo@gmail.com
'Wallace'ni cakap apa sebenarnya,macam saya tidak faham lah.Macam main politik lallang pun ada pasal cakap sekarang sokong STAR jadi besok sokong siapa?Lepas itu lagi cabar Jeffery untuk buat pendirian.Macam mana sokong STAR kalau tidak tau pendirian Jeffery?Macam sudah binggung sendiri lah.
DeleteMungkin sudah gila politik Wallace ni.Macam dia ingat rakyat bodoh dan dia sajalah pintar.Tapi nampak macam bodoh juga dia ni dalam politik.Macam baru berpolitik kelmarin.Rosaklah parti STAR oleh orang ini.
DeleteMacam biasalah penyokong anti-STAR ini memang pandai putar-belit kenyataan Wallace ini macam orang sabah ini betul2 bodoh.
DeleteRead today's article on "We are all frogs..." by Jeffery Kitingan
Deletehttp://wikisabah.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/we-are-all-frogs-even-musa-and-pairin.html
He clearly declares the STAR party is for Sabah independence. There is no going back on this!
Let us all unite behind those who champion Sabah independence and not be divided on the small issues and bad mouthing by some readers.
If these critics want to criticise then make clear why we should not have Sabah independence.
OR give good reasons why we should stay in Malaysia under UMNO BN colonial domination!?
PKR is a clown...of course they makes jokes..
DeleteKalau hari ini Sabah merdeka besok askar pilipin mendarat diSabah.Siapa tolong? British,Amerika?Pilipin adalah sekutu kuat Amerika dan British sekutu kuat Amerika juga.Jadi Sabah merdeka apa?Jadi jajahan pilipin dan sultan sulu?
Deletebodohlah pendapat kau ni..bila Sabah merdeka tentulah ia dibawah undang2 antarabangsa dan mana2 negarapun tidak boleh mendaratkan tentera mereka tanpa mandat PBB...so walaupun pilipin itu sekutu kuat Amerika tapi mereka juga terikat dengan undang2 antarabangsa dan mereka tidak boleh buat sesuka hati mereka....kau ingat Rusia dan China tidak akan ambil kesempatankah untuk mengenakan Amerika dan sekutunya jika mereka berbuat sesuka hati mereka...
DeleteKau ini goblok lah.Kalau semua negara ikut peraturan PBB Palestin tidak kena bomb hari hari oleh Israel.Saddam tidak masuk Kuwait dan Mesir tidak juga berperang dengan Israel.
DeleteKita tengok sajalah nanti apa akan berlaku dengan dunia politik yang penuh dengan gimik ni. hehe
ReplyDeleteBiasa lapolitik.Tiada cerita begini, tidaklah meriah..
DeleteBukan soal parti yang harus diperdebatkan tapi soal calon yang mewakili parti itu... Layak ka tak jadi wakil rakyat.
ReplyDeleteBetul tu, parti yang bertanding perlu la seorang yang jujr dan berhati rakyat, bukan penting diri sendiri.
DeleteKalau sesebuah parti itu hanya ada seorang dua saja winnable candidates, macam manalah agaknya parti tu mahu menang?
DeleteRakyat yang akan menentukan siapakah calon yang berkelayakan.
DeleteKalau layak, tak kisalah parti apapun yang menang asalkan ia pilihan rakyat, OK la tu.
ReplyDeleteRakyat akan menjadi penentunya.
DeletePercaturan politik sukar diramal, malah ia seringkali diluar jangkaan kita. Jadi tidak hairanlah kalau ada saja isu yang timbul.
ReplyDeleteSatu yang pasti, semua pihak mahukan yang terbaik demi kebaikan bersama:)
ReplyDeleteThe government listens to the voice of all people irregardless of whether they are in the opposition. What is important for the BN government is that all the people’s grievances are tackled in the interest of the people and the prosperity of our country
DeletePKR pandai saja cakap..padahal durang pun sama juga.. susah juga politik ni..masing2 namau kalah.
ReplyDeletePasal ego dan tidak mahu 'kalah' inilah yang menyebabkan pembangkang di Sabah tidak kuat. Semua pun sibuk mahu jadi ketua.
Deletememang samua orang mau manang. tapi saya mau star yanf manang. dulu saya sokong sama pkr. tapi saya tenguk tujuan star labih bagus daripada pkr. kalu tiada star ,mimang saya sokong pkr tapi pati star labih aginda dia.
ReplyDeleteStar did told the people to reject PKR from Semenanjung first. Surely PKR will not just take the abuse silently.
Deletehttp://sabah-go-green.blogspot.com/
Now PKR is claiming that Jeffrey cannot speak for Borneo, looks like PKR is hitting back.
ReplyDeletehttp://sabah-go-green.blogspot.com/
PKR bukannya ikhlas sangat tu.
DeleteThe question of choosing a government is a question of the people giving a 5 years mandate to lead the country and not 5 days which we choose now and if we do not like the way the country is governed we change it the next day. we choose a government not just for us, but a government that is able to protect the rights and well being of our children and grandchildren. the allegations of the opposition that the BN government is cruel to the people is simply slander designed to mislead the people so that they would not support the BN government.
ReplyDeletepembangkang kini saling sibuk menyalahkan sesama mereka.
Deletenah, bercakar lagi ni PKR dan Star..
ReplyDeletemasing-masing mau tunjuk hero, jadi iniah yang berlaku.
Deletepercakaran ini membuktikan bahawa pembangkang di sabah tidak akan bersatu dan tidak akan mencapai kata sepakat untuk 1 VS 1 pada pru13 nanti...pembangkang sudah di ambang kekalahan..belum tanding lagi tapi sudah kalah..
ReplyDeleteBaguslah, nampaknya BN akan menang sekali lagi kerana Pembangkang gagal bersatu untuk lawan 1 ke 1.
DeletePembangkang kata nak menjatuhkan kerajaan BN, tidak begitu mudah selagi mereka tidak bersatu. Teruslah perang antara 3 parti ini, lawan jangan tak lawan.
DeleteBN tetap menang tetapi berapa kerusi yang dapat dimenangi adalah persoalannya?
DeleteLebih cakar lebih bagus.
ReplyDeleteHa, sudah saling berlawanan antara PKR, SAPP dan STAR. Bila lagi mereka boleh bekerjasama, mungkin lain kali sajalah.
ReplyDeletemereka tidak pernah pun bekerjasama, sebaliknya mereka selalu tidak sependapat.
DeleteMereka harus menyedari bahawa mereka mempunyai persamaan iaitu pembangkang. Jadi tidak harus berlaku perkara seperti ini.
ReplyDeleteRakyat harus berhati2 bila hari mengundi tiba.
ReplyDeletekalau ikhlas untuk memperjuangkan yang terbaik, memang satu keadaan yang menggalakkan.
ReplyDeletePKR yang sepatutnya tidak patut bercerita mengenai Borneo. STAR memang parti tempatan maka ada hak untuk bersuara.
ReplyDeletestar dan pkr masih lagi tidak dapat bekerjasama sampai sekarang.
ReplyDeletekeadaan ini menunjukkan pkr dan star tidak sehaluan.
ReplyDeletesikap tamak membuatkan mereka tidak sehaluan.. masing2 mahukan jawatan kabinet negeri..
DeletePKR dan STAR.. kedua2nya bukan parti tempatan Sabah.. PKR dari Malaya, manakala STAR dari Sarawak..
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